said, render unto caesar and render unto god what is god's. we have government ordained by god. if you look at moses, he was involved in government. if you look at joseph, he was involved in government. all throughout the bible, i mean, in the bible you see strong personalities who were involved in government. it is a right. we must support those things that will provide the quality of life and will provide a standard of living for human beings. so, any time you suppress that, any time you take away that, it has to be demonic and diabolical. >> the last question, i want to talk about policy, aside from politics. and the president endorsed gay marriage as a policy. do you think that will affect the black voter turnout in your congregation and across the country? >> that's an excellent question. as soon as he made that statement as a pastor, as a student of the bible, as one who believes in the word of god. we certainly cannot support gay marriages, but we certainly know that the president is the president for all people. he did not, in fact, legislate gay marriages. so, at the end of th
